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Hmm, what to say I read this AFTER I saw the movie, which was sacrilege according to some fellow geeks on Twitter, but my definition of Geek is someone who doesn t do what people PRESSURE them to do P They love what they love So anyhoo I read this and I can summarize this way The Movie did a great summary of the plot while formulating a story that missed the subtext of the graphic novel entirely I enjoyed both, but after reading the graphic novel, it s almost sad how the impression you tak Hmm, what to say I read this AFTER I saw the movie, which was sacrilege according to some fellow geeks on Twitter, but my definition of Geek is someone who doesn t do what people PRESSURE them to do P They love what they love So anyhoo I read this and I can summarize this way The Movie did a great summary of the plot while formulating a story that missed the subtext of the graphic novel entirely I enjoyed both, but after reading the graphic novel, it s almost sad how the impression you take away from the movie is nothing of what Alan Moore was trying to say about the world, society or these characters So interesting 2020 Coronavirus ReviewI originally thought that Watchmen didn t initially impress me because it was the first graphic novel I d read as an adult Maybe I didn t have enough experience with all the actual garbage out there and couldn t yet appreciate Moore s genius.Now, after slogging through his masterpiece withthan a few comics under my belt, I feel confident when I say that I don t like this all that much The art is horrible and almost every panel is crammed with words Most of them me 2020 Coronavirus ReviewI originally thought that Watchmen didn t initially impress me because it was the first graphic novel I d read as an adult Maybe I didn t have enough experience with all the actual garbage out there and couldn t yet appreciate Moore s genius.Now, after slogging through his masterpiece withthan a few comics under my belt, I feel confident when I say that I don t like this all that much The art is horrible and almost every panel is crammed with words Most of them meaningless ramblings that sound like something your drunk uncle spouts at the family reunion when he s trying to sound deep and thoughtful.Everyone else heads back to the kitchen to getpotato salad, leaving Uncle Alan with whatever poor nephew he s cornered to be harrassed with reminisces of back in the day and observations on why the world s gone to shit But worse than the panels of art packed with wordy musings are the straight up book pages.Page after page of a bio about the comic that the kid at the newsstand is reading Why Why is there a backstory about the writer of a fake pirate comic that is being read inside another comic Then 3 pages on some guy Dan waxing poetic about getting scared in a parking lot when an owl screeched Getthefuckoutofhere.Moore is bordering on abusive with this sort of thing.Some of it was mildly interesting, however, none of it ultimately pushed the plot forward I didn t mind the stuff about Sally Jupiter but it could have been cut in half I didn t need all of that nonsense.The last 100 pages pick up the pace a little Which means that it s almost as interesting as any decent comic you pick up today Not a good one A decent one.And the conclusion is so unbelievably underwhelming It had been so many years since I d read it that I couldn t quite remember how it all went down, so there was still an element of surprise And yetThat was it Yes, I m 100% sure this was absolutely groundbreaking when it first came out, but looking at it nowthan 10 years after I first read it I don t think it has aged well my personal opinionAnd unfortunately, since I didn t read it when it first came out, I don t have the benefit of rose colored nostalgia goggles to put on when I try to read this massive bastard, so I m at a loss to explain why this is so revered Part of the problem for me was that the characters in this were all weirdly anemic and or horrible Yes, people can be awful But there s no one in this story who wasn t gross or pathetic That s not anyrealistic than a story that has only sunshine and unicorn farts People are not as bad as all this But beyond this unrealistically gloomy look at humanity, my main issue with the comic was just simple boredom Not much actually happens that would support this book being so long The pirate story was a weird filler that didn t ultimately add anything to the overall story, all of the reprinted excerpts from fake books bios notes and whatthefuckevers were a tedious time suck that also added very little to the plot, and the characters themselves were mostly so repulsive dull that I couldn t really muster up any fucks for them.Ok, now before anyone gets their panties in a twist, this is just my experience reading rereading this book That doesn t mean I think anyone who loves this is silly or stupid It just wasn t my cuppa.Original Review 2009 view spoiler Ok, first let me say that I have never read a graphic novel I apologize in advance to all those who will be offended when I make this next statement I thought it would be a nice easy read that I could finish in a few hours Oops What can I say, I figured it was just an adult version of some comic book Boy, was I wrong This thing took me days to finish It was an in depth, gritty, dark, mostly sad look at an alternate world a lot like ours The superheroes were just dysfunctional guys and gals running around in tights None of them seemed very heroic when it came down to it, and the only one of them with actual superpowers didn t care about anything at all I still don t know if I like it, and it certainly wasn t enjoyable to read Most of the time it made me feel slightly nauseous, but I think that was what the writer and artist were going for I am, however, glad that I read it It was different and I can see why this thing has been talked about so much for all of these years I think it stands the test of time as something unique hide spoiler This Hugo Award winning graphic novel chronicles the fall from grace of a group of super heroes plagued by all too human failings Along the way, the concept of the super hero is dissected as the heroes are stalked by an unknown assassinOne of the most influential graphic novels of all time and a perennial best seller, Watchmen has been studied on college campuses across the nation and is considered a gateway title, leading readers to other graphic novels such as V for Vendetta, Batman The Dark Knight Returns and The Sandman series Morality is a fickle bitch This is, simply put, iconic When any one mentions comics graphic novels the first thought that enters is an image of the Watchmen I think there is a strong reason for it It made me question morality on a scale rarely seen in fiction Indeed, when considering the characters it is incredibly hard to consider any of them truly good or truly bad They are simply people who are convinced that they are right Take Rorschach, he follows the law to the very letter, but nev Morality is a fickle bitch This is, simply put, iconic When any one mentions comics graphic novels the first thought that enters is an image of the Watchmen I think there is a strong reason for it It made me question morality on a scale rarely seen in fiction Indeed, when considering the characters it is incredibly hard to consider any of them truly good or truly bad They are simply people who are convinced that they are right Take Rorschach, he follows the law to the very letter, but never stops to consider, for a single moment, that there are actually problems with the law yes, he is violent, but his unique form of vigilante justice is an embodiment of the law s order He works outside the law to bring the law in a strange sort of way Then is he not worthy of the justice he administers Does he go too far Is he, too, not worthy of punishment These are hard questions to answer because there are no real answers There is simply opinion and debate it all depends on how you view the world One thing remains certain though, the characters in here are so devastatingly flawed On the other hand, you have Ozymandias who looks at the big picture He sees the world for what it is, and tries to plan accordingly Except, unlike Rorschach he attempts to tackle the bigger problems To many, he is simply the villain In reality he is as obscurely heroic as Rorschach and just as morally grey Who has the right to sacrifice life Who has the right to dictate people and make such a monumental decision Well, nobody really Yet, Ozymandias actions, essentially, save the world Who can question his results His methods are clearly debatable, though it was the only route open to him There is simply no quantifiable right or wrong in this world there is only neutrality and hypocrisy This is where the self actualised Comedian comes in Unlike Rorschach, he is fully aware of his faults and corruptness Unlike Ozymandias, he perceived that the world has no hope So, what does he do He embraces himself and indulges in his own overbearing personality He knows what he is, and what he reflects, so he relishes in his own nature He offers no guilt and feels no remorse he simply doesn t care about anything or anyone In this he isneutral than any other character he isn t in denial he isn t convinced he is right he just knows that the world is, essentially, doomed So, why not enjoy it It s all a joke, after all Right There are so many conflicting and self defeating morals in here Never before have I read something in which so many people have been wrong, but at the same time so absolutely right Then there is Jon, the so called God of America, the supreme Dr Manhattan He is something else entirely He could have changed everything His power was practically limitless, but he barely lifted a finger until the last possible moment And the pointing of that finger was an action that was both terrible and completely necessary The answer became clear as to the question of his inaction why should he bother with man The Comedian got to him in this he saw something in humanity that wasn t worth saving Rorschach saw it too, but he still tried to salvage the remnants of society through brutalising the brutalisers Dr Manhattan, however, was simply too complex and too important to waste his time on the common man He came through in the end though, surprisingly Well, kind of I thought he d watch the world burn, but humanity did have another protector albeit one who committed necessary evils This was such a great piece of fiction I don t think I could ever do it justice in a review Parts of this felt too intricate to put into words This is a complete subversion of the entire genre and a full questioning of the flawed, and hypocritical, nature of humankind It is a piece of work that will, simply put, never be forgotten by those that have experienced its mortifying splendour This is the first comic book I ve seriously considered to be great it has become a gateway for me to explore the comic book universe that I ve barely touched in the past So I ask you this what comic book should I read next Can any other comic really compare to this I can understand why this is considered a holy tome in the field of graphic novels The plot is complex, it s unique, and it s well drawn Also, it s got the Holy Grail of every geeky comic book fan s wetdreams lots of cool gadgets and stuff.I ain t knocking that Imagination abounds, and I am thoroughly impressed I love that comic books and graphic novels create their entire world but BUT then again every piece of art creates it s own world And ALL OF THOSE OTHER ARTS MAKE EMOTIONALLY E I can understand why this is considered a holy tome in the field of graphic novels The plot is complex, it s unique, and it s well drawn Also, it s got the Holy Grail of every geeky comic book fan s wetdreams lots of cool gadgets and stuff.I ain t knocking that Imagination abounds, and I am thoroughly impressed I love that comic books and graphic novels create their entire world but BUT then again every piece of art creates it s own world And ALL OF THOSE OTHER ARTS MAKE EMOTIONALLY ENGAGING STORIES I get frustrated because my graphic novel friends keep foisting these things on me They love me, they see me as very imaginative and very supportive of their creativity, but they cannot seem to get why I go cold at graphic novels.This one was thrust upon me, because I was affected by the movie The Dark Knight I got emotionally engaged I felt hopeless with Batman I got a knot in my stomach when that horrible, unspeakable thing happened two thirds of the way through the film I was troubled by Joker s logic, and I was frustrated with the people in the ferries In other words, I WAS EMOTIONALLY ENGAGED A lot of these graphic novels and stuff seem to think that if they simply tickle your creative brain, they ve succeeded I wantI want to laugh and cry and cheer and feel despair I want a core of true human story Gadgets and colors and costumes and superpowers don t make me weep or shout or ponder or giggle or sigh Well, they make me sigh with frustrationa nd boredom.I know I sound angry at these things I get frustrated, because I don t think this is so hard to understand that I need emotional stimulation And yet, my graphic novel friends still press these books in my hand, hoping to unlock my wonder and amazement I was full of wonder and amazement at The Adventures of Kavalier Clay, a novel about a superhero and the super human who spawned him I am not above the magical, mystical, and fantastic I love Harry Potter , but there has to bethan just gadgetry and explosions There has to be honesty and the courage to plumb the human experience I felt terribly at Kavalier s struggles with violence and anti Semitism in Eastern Europe Sam Clay s secrets were heart breaking Kavalier s search for revenge and Sam s search for respect were emotionally engaging In Harry Potter, I rallied behind Mrs Weasley s maternal drive I loved Harry s indignance at cruelty I thought Hermione s concern for elves was sweet, and complicated who know they wanted to be slaves Chabon succeeded at making me feel, and so did Rowling Watchmen did not.Watchmen is about two generations of heroes One was human using costumes, strength, and cunning The next was led bys a superhuman, Dr Manhattan they were both human and somewhat superhuman Then a law was passed making their work illegal, and they went underground It s only when someone starts bumping off the old retired heroes that a mystery starts, a mystery that asks the esoteric and totally intellectual read unemotional question of why humans can be drawn to the edge of doom, and what they need to do to stop just at the edge.Oh for the people who know and love Watchmen I felt bad for how Dr Manhattan couldn t have a human relationship And I understood why Laurie got infuriated The thrill of Laurie and Dan becoming superheroes again was honest and wonderful But that was it I didn t feel the panic of the world ending mostly because if it did happen, there d be no story I didn t care for the casual use of rape as a plot point None of the long winded, theoretical discussion about whether humanity was worth saving had any emotional pull to me I didn t care In all 413 pages, I had four honest emotional reactions One of my reactions was anger at the tangential pirate story don t ask it doesn t have any emotional or thematic reason for being there it was just added because someone thought it was cool Cool There s the problem Cool things don t make me feel People can imagine and draw all the cool things in the world, and it won t make me emotional engage Cool things don t make my heart race or break or pause They leave me cold Graphic novels are mostly cool I reread this in anticipation of seeing the film in 2009 Rorschach Watchmen is one of the all time great graphic novels Someone is killing the costumed adventurers and the very dark Rorschach, our guiding Virgil into this Inferno, is trying to get to the bottom of it Watchmen deals in multiple time lines, from the early days of the 40 s 50 s and 60 s when the superheroes were welcomed and appreciated, to the 70 s when laws were passed to limit their legitimacy, to the current day, the 80 s he I reread this in anticipation of seeing the film in 2009 Rorschach Watchmen is one of the all time great graphic novels Someone is killing the costumed adventurers and the very dark Rorschach, our guiding Virgil into this Inferno, is trying to get to the bottom of it Watchmen deals in multiple time lines, from the early days of the 40 s 50 s and 60 s when the superheroes were welcomed and appreciated, to the 70 s when laws were passed to limit their legitimacy, to the current day, the 80 s here Moore has constructed an alternate history, one in which Nixon remains president for a third term, one in which the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan continues on in to Pakistan and threatens nuclear war with the USA These are not exactly the nicest superheroes Rorschach is a psycho, a bloody vigilante, fierce, damaged, with a need for vengeance that often exceeds what is absolutely necessary The Comedian is a nihilist who has committed an unspeakable crime against one of the other superheroes, as well as plenty of crimes against the non hero community Doctor Manhattan, the only character with super powers, and boy o boy what super powers, may not even care about the survivability of humanity anyBilly Crudup as Doctor Manhattan from the filmSo what is this all about One central concern is action versus inaction Faced with a world approaching the brink of nuclear annihilation, is it better to act or not act If one is to act, how far can one go to save the earth Acting in the service of larger causes has implications Doc Manhattan and the Comedian are shown engaging in bloody carnage in an alternate Viet Nam War Is murder in the service of country ok If it is ok in war, how about in preventing war And why couldn t Doc Manhattan use his powers to transport the enemy into contained spaces instead of obliterating them The ComedianIs Moore a fan of the right wing or a critic My take is the latter On the surface we hear Rorschach droning on about the moral depravity of the city a la Travis Bickel, while practicing his own form of depravity on any who get in his way The right wing, rabble rousing newspaper in the book certainly has plenty of parallels in our world I do not think he was flattering in his view of them Moore was writing in response, I believe, to Thatcherism, when creatures like Maggie and Reagan were seen as heroes by their fans, to the detriment of most of us I read that Moore set Watchmen in an alternate reality so as not to turn off Reaganistas Who is watching the leaders And who is watching the watchers Nite Owl from the book and as portrayed by Patrick Wilson in the filmIf these are the heroes we get, who needs heroes Unlike the dominantly rose tinted superheroes of the past, the Watchmen heroes are far past flawed What actually do these characters value Doc Manhattan struggles even with the notion of valuing the continuation of the human race The Comedian thinks that life is a big, bloody joke, G Gordon Liddy with a special outfit, and Rorschach sees filth everywhere Unlike most superhero tales, this one lacks a super villain So the heroes have to deal with less simplistic challenges It takesto be a superhero than merely the ability to beat up the baddie They have to use their brains, figure things out, struggle with very difficult moral choices One annoyance here was that I felt the females in the story tend to serve as plot devices for the development of the male characters rather than as fully realized characters in their own right Silk Spectre pen and ink, and Carly Gugino in the film Watchmen is part Batman, part noir detective story, part cold war crisis of nerves It represented a sea change in the presentation of graphic heroes, from ainnocent time in which good was good and bad was bad, for the most part, to one in which the distinctions are much less clear Watchmen resonates on many levels and remains, on re reading, a powerful tale.Review re posted October 2019 in anticipation of the upcoming HBO re boot This will not be a re make of the 2009 film, but uses the graphic novel as a starting point, branching far from the original material Should be interesting I realize that what I m about to say is as close as you can get to comic book blasphemy, but I think that 1 Alan Moore is the most overrated comic book writer ever and 2 this graphic novel is overblown, pretentious and most unforgivable of all, boring.To be fair, I m somewhat of a snob when it comes to my reading habits First and foremost, I want to be entertained If the story happens to be deep, thought provoking or groundbreaking as well, that s icing on the cake And the bottom line is th I realize that what I m about to say is as close as you can get to comic book blasphemy, but I think that 1 Alan Moore is the most overrated comic book writer ever and 2 this graphic novel is overblown, pretentious and most unforgivable of all, boring.To be fair, I m somewhat of a snob when it comes to my reading habits First and foremost, I want to be entertained If the story happens to be deep, thought provoking or groundbreaking as well, that s icing on the cake And the bottom line is that this book simply did not entertain me It was too busy trying to be Deep and Meaningful and Teach Us A Lesson to actually do anything as lowbrow as make compelling characters the reader can identify with and have them do interesting and entertaining things.While I love characters who are sucky human beings in small doses, stories where damn near everyone sucks like this one get on my nerves I don t like reading stories filled with a bunch of irredeemable emo asshats who do shitty things to each other and to humanity in general , and where the the themes of the story are pounded into your face with the delicacy of a sledgehammer So clearly not my cup of tea, but I m obviously in the minority on this one Not a fan of the graphic novel but this epic actually moved me It tells of the human drama, the DNA that is passed down generations, the hopelessness of modernity, and which side we ll choose when the apocalypse is neigh It is pessimistic, dark, sometimes silly as a staple of the genre it wouldn t be a success if it wasn t SOMEhow ridiculous The Incredibles Best Pixar picture Ever touched upon many of the themes presented here, mainly about the humanity of Superheroes Can a rapis Not a fan of the graphic novel but this epic actually moved me It tells of the human drama, the DNA that is passed down generations, the hopelessness of modernity, and which side we ll choose when the apocalypse is neigh It is pessimistic, dark, sometimes silly as a staple of the genre it wouldn t be a success if it wasn t SOMEhow ridiculous The Incredibles Best Pixar picture Ever touched upon many of the themes presented here, mainly about the humanity of Superheroes Can a rapist actually save lives Can the past be altogether discarded so that one can live a normal life whether its Superhero or Human This menagerie of misfits Nite Owl, Dr Manhattan, the Comedian, Ozymindas, Silk Spectre live breathe, that is a FACT Also, the match cuts are cinematic in a work that is, ironically, dubbed unfilmable A character in a comic book tells of his fate, which matches the action that occurs in the comic book WE are reading Its postmodern complex Let us hope the film comes close to matching its genius I didn t read this until last year I saw the film about six months later I m a new convert still radiant with that just converted glow Along with the Sandman graphic novels this is my favourite work in the medium Zenith and Preacher get honourable mentions Watchmen wins over all of the other candidates in ambition This is a work of vast ambition It doesn t deliver on every level, it isn t perfect, but it contains so much that succeeds, and comes so close to fulfilling its promises that I didn t read this until last year I saw the film about six months later I m a new convert still radiant with that just converted glow Along with the Sandman graphic novels this is my favourite work in the medium Zenith and Preacher get honourable mentions Watchmen wins over all of the other candidates in ambition This is a work of vast ambition It doesn t deliver on every level, it isn t perfect, but it contains so much that succeeds, and comes so close to fulfilling its promises that it would be churlish to mention any failings.Alan Moore is a great writer He s not a great writer for comics, he s a great writer period, who happens to have made the graphic novel his medium Watchmen is at times literary, funny, erudite, tragic, exciting, intriguing it s written for intelligent grown up readers This is a deconstruction of the superhero, an examination of the overlap between man and Superman, a recognition that we re none of us capable of handling the responsibility that comes hand in hand with power, and that talent, or strength, whether human or superhuman do not somehow erase or overcome the moral and mental frailties that are a part of the human condition The plot sprawls, it s convoluted, it spans generations and a large cast What keeps it together are the deeply personal stories on various scales Its scope was what kept it from the big screen for so long, and in truth the movie whilst good fun and well done, I thought is just a 2D projection of this complex multi dimensional work That same complexity is stopping me from doing it justice in this short review Rather than try I m just going to back off the grandiose praise and return to the punchline This is a fun read It s exciting The artwork ROCKS It s as deep as that hole Alice fell down, but you never notice you re falling Pick it up Read it with 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